MAC Address - Physical Address

Luis F. Rodas · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

Hi All,

When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
(running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in "Network
Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP) it is displayed
to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".

1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the same
to any PC?
2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?

Best Regards,
Luis F.
(Indusot Team)

Archived from group: microsoft>public>windowsce>embedded

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 741

1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.

2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
*not* match the indicated value, but so what?

3) Again, huh?

Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for you.
Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.

Paul T.

"Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
>
> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP) it
> is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>
> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
> same to any PC?
> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>
> Best Regards,
> Luis F.
> (Indusot Team)
>
>

Luis F. Rodas · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

Hi Paul,

I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number (or
other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with WinCE)
is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC Address, but I
make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I connect to
smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function returns:
1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".

Best Regards,
Luis F.
(Indusoft Team)

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

com> wrote in message news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
> address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>
> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>
> 3) Again, huh?
>
> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for you.
> Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>
> Paul T.
>
>
> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP) it
>> is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>
>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>> same to any PC?
>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Luis F.
>> (Indusot Team)
>>
>>
>
>

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 741

That may or may not exist; it will depend on the device. If it's always a
Windows Mobile device, you may be able to use ???? to get a unique
identifier for the device. Or, if, on the device, you know that there's an
Ethernet-compatible device, you can get the MAC address from that and use
it, as it's supposed to be universally unique.

Connecting with ActiveSync does not make the device a real RNDIS adapter and
it doesn't have to have a unique MAC address to do what it needs to do.
It's obviously manufacturing a number to use as the MAC address, but that
MAC is never seen outside of the two-device network consisting of the PC and
the Windows Mobile device. A *real* Ethernet adapter has to have a real
unique ID.

Paul T.

"Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paul,
>
> I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number (or
> other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with WinCE)
> is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC Address, but I
> make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I connect to
> smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function returns:
> 1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
> 2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>
> Best Regards,
> Luis F.
> (Indusoft Team)
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

> com> wrote in message news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
>> address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>>
>> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
>> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>>
>> 3) Again, huh?
>>
>> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
>> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for
>> you. Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>>
>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP) it
>>> is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>
>>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>>> same to any PC?
>>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Luis F.
>>> (Indusot Team)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 741

Sorry about that. Sent it early. Should be IOCTL_HAL_GET_DEVICEID where I
have ???? there.

Paul T.

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

com> wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> That may or may not exist; it will depend on the device. If it's always a
> Windows Mobile device, you may be able to use ???? to get a unique
> identifier for the device. Or, if, on the device, you know that there's
> an Ethernet-compatible device, you can get the MAC address from that and
> use it, as it's supposed to be universally unique.
>
> Connecting with ActiveSync does not make the device a real RNDIS adapter
> and it doesn't have to have a unique MAC address to do what it needs to
> do. It's obviously manufacturing a number to use as the MAC address, but
> that MAC is never seen outside of the two-device network consisting of the
> PC and the Windows Mobile device. A *real* Ethernet adapter has to have a
> real unique ID.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number
>> (or other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with
>> WinCE) is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC
>> Address, but I make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I
>> connect to smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function
>> returns:
>> 1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>> 2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Luis F.
>> (Indusoft Team)
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

>> DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
>>> address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>>>
>>> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
>>> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>>>
>>> 3) Again, huh?
>>>
>>> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
>>> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for
>>> you. Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>>> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>>>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>>>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP)
>>>> it is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>>>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>>
>>>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>>>> same to any PC?
>>>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>>>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Luis F.
>>>> (Indusot Team)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Luis F. Rodas · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

Hi Paul,

Do you know if exist any info returned by GetAdaptersInfo() function that
identify if an Ethernet Adapter is "real" ?

Best Regads,
Luis F.
(Indusoft Team).

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

com> wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> That may or may not exist; it will depend on the device. If it's always a
> Windows Mobile device, you may be able to use ???? to get a unique
> identifier for the device. Or, if, on the device, you know that there's
> an Ethernet-compatible device, you can get the MAC address from that and
> use it, as it's supposed to be universally unique.
>
> Connecting with ActiveSync does not make the device a real RNDIS adapter
> and it doesn't have to have a unique MAC address to do what it needs to
> do. It's obviously manufacturing a number to use as the MAC address, but
> that MAC is never seen outside of the two-device network consisting of the
> PC and the Windows Mobile device. A *real* Ethernet adapter has to have a
> real unique ID.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number
>> (or other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with
>> WinCE) is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC
>> Address, but I make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I
>> connect to smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function
>> returns:
>> 1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>> 2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Luis F.
>> (Indusoft Team)
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

>> DOT com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
>>> address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>>>
>>> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
>>> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>>>
>>> 3) Again, huh?
>>>
>>> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
>>> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for
>>> you. Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>>> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>>>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>>>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP)
>>>> it is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>>>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>>
>>>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>>>> same to any PC?
>>>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>>>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Luis F.
>>>> (Indusot Team)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 741

You aren't going to be able to do anything on the PC side without a program
running on the device side, if that's what you're asking. On the device,
there is substantial information about each adapter returned. You should be
able to eliminate the ActiveSync connection using that information, yes.

Paul T.

"Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paul,
>
> Do you know if exist any info returned by GetAdaptersInfo() function that
> identify if an Ethernet Adapter is "real" ?
>
> Best Regads,
> Luis F.
> (Indusoft Team).
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

> com> wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> That may or may not exist; it will depend on the device. If it's always
>> a Windows Mobile device, you may be able to use ???? to get a unique
>> identifier for the device. Or, if, on the device, you know that there's
>> an Ethernet-compatible device, you can get the MAC address from that and
>> use it, as it's supposed to be universally unique.
>>
>> Connecting with ActiveSync does not make the device a real RNDIS adapter
>> and it doesn't have to have a unique MAC address to do what it needs to
>> do. It's obviously manufacturing a number to use as the MAC address, but
>> that MAC is never seen outside of the two-device network consisting of
>> the PC and the Windows Mobile device. A *real* Ethernet adapter has to
>> have a real unique ID.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number
>>> (or other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with
>>> WinCE) is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC
>>> Address, but I make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I
>>> connect to smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function
>>> returns:
>>> 1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>> 2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Luis F.
>>> (Indusoft Team)
>>>
>>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

>>> DOT com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example,
>>>> the address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
>>>> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>>>>
>>>> 3) Again, huh?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
>>>> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for
>>>> you. Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>>>>
>>>> Paul T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>>>> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>>>>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>>>>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP)
>>>>> it is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>>>>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>>>>> same to any PC?
>>>>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>>>>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Luis F.
>>>>> (Indusot Team)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Chris De Herrera · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2284

Hi,
Did you try mapping the MAC address to the RNDIS interface that Windows
Mobile uses? How about the IP to MAC address for the static IP that Windows
Mobile uses?

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"Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paul,
>
> I need any thing that identifies that WinCE is unique, ie, some number (or
> other identifier) so that my program can know that a hardware (with WinCE)
> is different of another hardware. I am thinking to use MAC Address, but I
> make sure the MAC Address is different to any CE. When I connect to
> smartphone via ActiveSync the GetAdaptersInfo() function returns:
> 1) On WinXP: "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
> 2) On WinCE: "82-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>
> Best Regards,
> Luis F.
> (Indusoft Team)
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]"

> com> wrote in message news:%23B%23BBZlbIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> 1) It appears to me to always be the same. It matches, for example, the
>> address of my phone when connected to my PC via ActiveSync.
>>
>> 2) Huh? The device would have a Bluetooth hardware address that should
>> *not* match the indicated value, but so what?
>>
>> 3) Again, huh?
>>
>> Why do you care? What's the real question? If the address is any
>> particular value, I don't see what possible concern that would be for
>> you. Tell us *what* you want to do or what the real question is.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>>
>> "Luis F. Rodas" wrote in message
>> $9hC1kbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> When a Windows Mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphone) is connected to a PC
>>> (running WinXP) via ActiveSync a new Ethernet Adapter is created in
>>> "Network Connections" (on XP). Running the "ipconfig /all" (on WinXP) it
>>> is displayed to this Ethenet Adapter the Physhical Address
>>> "80-00-60-0F-E8-00".
>>>
>>> 1) Does anyone know if the Physical Address "80-00-60-0F-E8-00" is the
>>> same to any PC?
>>> 2) Is this Physical Address used in Bluetooth connections ?
>>> 3) Does anyone know why using this Physical Address ?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Luis F.
>>> (Indusot Team)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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